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obama will be deadlock. but i it's something he said to john boehner leaving any room for compromise? if politicians don't take us over the cliff, will the unions? what the they're planning this k in from boston to houston threatening to strike you in the wallet. eric: read the headlines and they say that president is giving up his vacation takes toe a fiscal cliff deal, but is there any room for negotiation? let's talk about it a little bit. >> the president is heading back to washington to attempt a last-ditch effort with speaker boehner to forge some compromise to avert a fiscal cliff which will kick in in six days if nothing isone done. those are the headlines are we talking about is cutting his vacation short in tha and that l well and good. is there anything that can be done because they really seem to be at an impasse before christmms, the republicans in the houseors, imploded and a ve, very tight spot and i suspect if there is to be a deal it'll be a pretty on powering one for all involved. eric: john boehner, putting it up on the screen. $800 billion in tax revenue on the t
john boehner seem so close to getting a deal done. they were really close on taxes and entitlement reform. we saw that last week house speaker john boehner couldn't get his plan b through the house. aides tell me right now president obama does not feel as though he has to compromise much more. he believes he has the leverage because he won reelection. >> on taxes i know it is hard for the republicans but the president ran on that platform. 250. no taxes for people below but taxes above. he won. 60% of the voters said they were for it in the exit polls including some republicans. >> reporter: there is also a lot of skepticism among lawmakers. senator joe lieberman said he thinks the country is closer than ever to going over the cliff. the last time interestingly that lawmakers worked between the christmas holiday and new year's was in 1996. that is, of course, when they were dealing with the government shut down. politics will be put aside this morning. the president, a lot of members of congress will be attending that memorial service for the late senator. >> kristen welker in hawa
operated with a dictator ship of the speaker. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on footing. >> john boehner's office fired back -- senator reid should talk less and legislate more. the house has already passed legislation to avoid the entire fiscal cliff. >>> the president gets set to land in washington this hour. there's new word that the president has called all four congressional leaders. reid, mcconnell, boehner and pelosi. . joining me to talk more, we have peter alexander standing by at the white house as well as nbc's mike viqueira on capitol hill. some verbal smackdown, basically flipping the lights back on and harry reid taking to the floor to eviscerate speaker boehner. >> the sad part is you often seen the floor opened that way. mitch mcconnell being later today. i'm sure we'll hear something later. to hear it two days after christmas and a matter of days before we go through the fiscal cliff, obviously not encouraging. harry reid says time is running hout. he doesn't know if they could go through the legislative hur
through the senate and doesn't make john boehner look too bad in the house and there are a lot of conservatives in the house that don't want to do any type of deal that would raise taxes on anybody even though they'll go up on the entire country the first tax hike in 20 years after monday night. >> and one would also assume that mitch mcconnell would have to back a grant, he could face a primary fight if this thing -- >> you touched on one of the great sub plots of these entire negotiations is personal things that boehner and mcconnell have in these negotiations. obviously, mcconnell doesn't want to have someone on the right come after him because he was in favor of a tax hike and john boehner's re-election as speaker of the house. and that would come across as a vote of no confidence. very embarrassing and they don't expect it happening and there's a lot at stake for mitch mcconnell and john boehner personally. great point you brought up. >> if the senate fails to come up with something, does the president have the votes? >> reporter: if harry reid got this through the senate,
for watching. it's home for the holidays with no deal. house speaker john boehner only has himself to blame. boehner's plan b gimmick failed big time last night at this point a fiscal cliff deal with boehner's members would probably require divine intervention. >> how we get there, god only knows. but all i've done is -- eric and i and our team here are committed to working with our colleagues on both sides of the aisle, both sides of the capitol and the white house to address it. >> after a day with dealing with humiliation, boehner hit the gavel and sent his members home for the holidays. there will be no deal this weekend. then boehner took the walk of shame out of the capitol. it's unclear whether he will be the speaker in the new year. it was the same sad walk many house members took last night when they couldn't get their own folks to vote on boehner's plan b. republican leaders can't strike a deal with their own members. how will they strike one with the president of the united states? boehner was scrambling for excuses today. >> you know, one of my colleagues the other night had an
obama, john boehner, nancy pelosi and harry reid, many mitch -- mitch mcconnell all in one room. danielle nottingham tells us it maybe the last chance to get any kind of agreement to avoid that fiscal cliff. >> reporter: president obama is meeting today at the white house with top congressional democrats harry reid and nancy pelosi and leading republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. it's the president's first meeting with congressional leaders since november 16th. the closed door discussions are an attempt to reach a last minute agreement to avoid automatic spending cuts and tax increases due to kick in january 1st. >> probably the worst case scenario will come out of this meeting today and that is we will kick the can down the road. >> reporter: senator bob courter told cbs this morning he predicts the meeting will bring only a temporary solution. >> this afternoon's meeting feels much to me like optics to make it look like we're doing something. let me just say one more time this is a total dereliction of duty at every level. >> reporter: going over the cliff would af
about the fate of house speaker john boehner because there's a lot more at play than just raising taxes on people who make more than a million dollars with what we saw happen last week? >> yeah, you know, i have always been a fan of john boehner's. i've known him for 20 years. i think he's a strong conservative. he's got a bit of a conservative revolt on his hands dagen. any time you have a high-profile issue like this and you are about to bring to it the floor and you have a revolt among your own members of your own party, that's a bad thing if you want to retain your speakership. so i think there may very well be a rebellion come january when they vote on officially on who the speaker will be. you know, eric cantor is next in line. but i'm going to predict that i think that john boehner is going to hold on despite the fact there is a mini rebellion within the republican party. dagen: great to see you steve. merry christmas. >> merry christmas. dagen: be well, safe travels. i know you are in chicago. >> i have to come back early because of the fiscal cliff. dagen: steve, thanks. >> tak
ticks. house speaker john boehner announced his plan b to let bush-era tax cuts expire for earners making more than $1 million a year and he wants to set automatic spending cuts with unspecified cuts elsewhere. the speaker pulled his so-called plan b for lack of support from his own party because many republicans still beholden to grover nor quest and the ridiculous pledge want no compromise at all. the debate between the two sides centers around a balanced approach the budget. republicans say president obama wants too much revenue. that's taxes in normal speak and not enough cuts. >> at some point we're going to have to address the spending problem that we have. we can't cut our way to prosperity. we need economic growth. many believe the fundamental reform of our tax code will help us get our economy moving faster and put more americans back to work. and more americans on the tax rolls. how we get there, god only knows. >> president obama doesn't see it that way. >> at some point there's got to be i think a recognition on the part of my republican friends, that you know, take the
at the white house. >> underscoring that urgency, house speaker john boehner says the house will meet in a rare sunday session. >> reporter: it may already be too late. days before the fiscal cliff, and with the house of representatives out of town until sunday, senate majority leader harry reid admitted a deal seems unlikely. >> i have to be very honest, mr. president, i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> reporter: in a scathing attack, reid called house speaker john boehner a dictator, and blamed him for letting members stay home with no deal in sight. >> we are here in washington, working. while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching their kids play soccer and basketball. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership. >> reporter: the republican leader responded saying it's democrats who failed to lead. >> make no mistake, the only reason the democrats have been trying to deflect attention onto me and my colleagues is that they don't have a plan of their own. >> reporter: president obama returned to washington for a last-m
the failure of speaker john boehner's plan b last week, house members are saying the ball is now in the senate's court. >>> former president george h.w. bush is in the intensive care unit at a houston hospital this morning. according to a statement from the bush family the president has been in intensive care since sunday, after suffering a series of setbacks, including a persistent fever. they also say he's relentlessly positive and spends time talking and joking with his doctors. in the next hour we'll take to you houston for a live update on the president's condition. >>> it's called one of the largest lawsuits of its kind, toyota agrees to a $1.1 billion settlement. we'll tell you who benefits and if one of the people who benefits is you. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. are only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi pri
. is something he said to speaker john boehner leaving room for compromise? if politicians don't take us over the cliff, will the unions in what is threatening to strike you right in the wallet. share everything. share brotherly love. share one up's. mom ? mom ? the share everything plan. lets your family share a pool of data across 10 devices with unlimited talk and text. now get a lucid by lg, free. read the headlines and they say the president is giving up his vacation to negotiate a fiscal cliff deal but is something he said before leaving for hawaii leaving room for negotiations? what are we talking about? set it up. >> the president is heading back to washington to attempt a last ditch effort with speaker boehner to forge compromise to avert the fiscal cliff which will kick in in about six days if nothing's done. those are the headlines. everyone talking about cutting his vacation short. the question is there anything that can be done? they were at an impasse before christmas, the republicans and house imploded and it's a tight spot. i suspect if there's a deal, it will be unpalatable f
. speaker john boehner's congress is about to take the prize for inaction. this is not a bipartisan problem. as stated by both liberal and conservative analysts, "we have been studying washington politics and congress for more than 40 years, and never have we seen them this dysfunctional in our past writings. we have criticized both parties when we believed it was warranted. today, however, we have no choice but to acknowledge that the core of the problem lies with the republican party." let's not forget that this was also the year that senator mitch mcconnell filibustered his own bill, an act that drew the utter consternation of senator dick durbin. >> so this may be a moment in senate history, when a senator made a proposal, and when given an opportunity for a vote on that proposal, filibustered his own proposal. i think we've now reached a new spot in the history of the senate we've never seen before. i'm going to ask the parliamentaran to really look into this. i don't think this has ever happened before. >> that's not the kind of history you're proud of making. i'm joined by robert rei
return from tight to work on the deadlock in d.c. tomorrow. is something he said to speaker john boehner leaving room for compromise? if politicians don't take us over the cliff, will the unions over the cliff, will the unions in what is threatening to strike lead paint poisoning aects one million children today. if you're pregnant or have young children and your home was built before 1978, you could be at risk. learn how to protect your family. to find your home's danger zones, the health effects, or just to find help, log on to leadfreekids.org. read the headlines and they say the president is giving up his vacation to negotiate a fiscal cliff deal but is something he said before leaving for hawaii leaving room for negotiations? what are we talking about? set it up. >> the president is heading back to washington to attempt a last ditch effort with speaker boehner to forge compromise to avert the fiscal cliff which will kick in in about six days if nothing'ss done. those are the headlines. everyone talking about cutting his vacation short. the question is there anything that can be done
to unprecedented. i have never seen a speaker be pushed back on as hard as what happened to john boehner this week. host: let me read you this, it is available online at thehill.com -- the activists are seeing that speaker boehner and other republican leaders are too scared about suffering politically if the nation goes on the cliff. $500 billion in tax hikes and spending cuts that are triggered in january. now that his plan be legislation has failed, these conservative republicans say that they should be empowered to make big demands and stop keating to the present -- to the president. -- caving to the president. guest: i am not sure that makes sense to me. you need to get something to the house republicans, and the president has to sign something. if that does not happen, then you have a very large tax increases, a lot more than they were talking about in their negotiating, and you have the defense cuts that happen over time and some other non-defense cuts, and you have this huge amount of revenue, deficit reduction, it is hard to see what demands the republicans think will be easier to make, th
, good morning. it's a new day and a new standoff. this time, house speaker john boehner is hinting he won't bring house members back to town until the senate comes up with a passable plan. as president obama leaves his tropical retreat in hawaii for a wintry washington, tension on capitol hill is on high. >> i don't see how you could hammer out any kind of a grand bargain or large plan involving tax reform and entitlement changes in a matter of days. >> reporter: serious doubt is setting in. even starbucks is getting involved, writing "come together" on its cups. speaker john boehner says he's sitting this round out after failing to get enough house republicans to support his own plan just before christmas. >> i think that boehner is being controlled, unfortunately, by the right wing. >> reporter: that leaves it up to majority leader harry reid and the rest of the senate to find a passable solution. aides say reid's plan would avoid tax increases for people making less than $250,000, eliminate some big spending cuts and restore unemployment benefits. >> i think you're likely to see a
. >> reporter: senate majority leader, harry reid, lashed out at house speaker, john boehner, accusing him of running a dictatorship. >> john boehner seems to care more about his leadership than keeping the country on a secure footing. >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. that wouldn't be fair to the american people. >> reporter: president obama flew home early from his hawaii vacation yesterday. speaker boehner called the house back into town for an unusual sunday session. but members of congress understand the 11th-hour actions may not be enough to appease the public. >> the american people have a right to be very upset with this congress. >> reporter: the fiscal cliff would bring massive tax increases and deep spending cuts. the treasury department would have trouble paying its bills. many economists worry the financial woes would plunge the u.s. back into a recession. just one possible effect of the fiscal cliff. milk prices could spike $2 or $3 a gallon, because farm progra
called john boehner a dictateor and paintin painting -- pointing blame on him. >> we're here in washington working. wile members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and baseball. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership. >> the republican leader says the democrats have failed. the only reason democrats have been trying to deflect attention on to me and my colleagues over the past few weeks is that they zront a plan of their own. >> the president return forward a last minute push before leaving on vacation in hawaii. he had separate phone conversations but it isn't clear talks helped. >> hopefully there is time for an agreement of some kind. >> washington's failure threatens to undermine the fragile economic recovery. americans face big tax hikes on newer's day. and treasury department warns the dopt will be soon unable to pay bills, the treasury says we're about to bump into that debt ceiling. it's not looking great. a way to calculate how much you'll have to pay if we go over the cliff. the fiscal cli
leaders nancy pelosi, john boehner, mitch mcconnell and harry reid to reach agreements before tax hikes and spending cuts kick in january 1. >> we have been asking the president and the democrats to work with us on a bipartisan agreement for months. >> i don't know time wise how it can happen now. >> reporter: the senate majority leader wants house republicans to return from their vacations to approve a democratic senate plan that extends tax cuts for families making less than $250,000 a year. >> that's the only option that is viable escape route. >> reporter: but republican leaders say it's up to democrats who control the senate and white house to avert the "fiscal cliff." >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check for anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> reporter: house members will return to capitol hill on sunday and could begin voting that night. they would have about 24 hours to approve a deal. adding to the urgency, treasury secretary timothy geithner warned congress that the nation's debt limit will be reached
. >> john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> hopefully there's time for an agreement of some kind. >> speaker john boehner called the house back into session for a highly unusual sunday evening session just in case. >>> an unexpected consequence of the fiscal cliff stalemate could mean sticker shock at your grocery store. milk prices could soon spike to $8 a gallon. wow. congress has been so bogged down with the fiscal cliff, the farm bill is still on the table. if congress does not pass it, dairy subsidies would immediately end on january 1, and those subsidies have been keeping milk prices low for 63 years. >>> the price of curbside parking in chicago is going up january 1. parking meters will charge $6.50 an hour in the downtown area. chicago will have the highest parking meter rates in the country, taking the dubious distinction away from san francisco. congratulations. chicago outsourced its parking meters to a private company and many drivers question that question now. >>> now to some surveillance video from h
cliff, talks on hold until after christmas and president obama and house speaker john boehner have not spoken since friday. lori: is there any hope for a deal? are you the last man there? >> a staff is here. the staff is in this but all eyes are on the senate when it returns this thursday to try and get a deal to avoid getting off a cliff the past friday before the president left for the holiday, he proposed a limited measure to avoid all of the cliff when speaker john boehner plan b. got scuttled. the president wants to extend the bush tax cuts and avoid some of the deep spending cuts. white house spokesperson says discussions continue between the administration and capitol hill. in july you may recall senate democrats passed an extension of the middle-class tax codes for the year. those folks making less than $250,000 per year at a cost of 157 billion. also passing the alternative minimum tax for $92 billion. mitch mcconnell is critical to hammering out a deal because he can filibuster any legislation, but his spokesman told me this morning nothing new to report. we don't know wh
. >> thank you. >>> here's one take on the fiscal cliff. john boehner's animal house. we are bogey to talk to "the washington post" writer who says in boehner's house the animals are rampaging. what's that mean? we will have an answer for you in the next half hour. >>> nasty weather is lingering just before christmas. aaa predicts 93 million of us will be traveling long distances over the holidays. that includes those that are flying. with a hello to you. how is it looking out there? not too bad in terms of traffic behind you. >> that's exactly right. good afternoon. it isn't too bad. here chilly but sunny and no problems to report in atlanta. most major airports throughout the country are run okay. one exception may be san francisco. bus there were rain delays there earlier today. but -- traffic slowing down a few of the other airports. according to flight aware.com so far only about 70 nights cancelled in the u.s. so far today. that's a big difference from thursday and provide when that storm blew through the plains and midwest and the northeast. forcing the cancellation of more than 600
'm not one of the people who jump all over john boehner. i thought he was making a good- faith offer. it was flatly rejected. part of this is about revenue. a huge part is budget cuts and reductions. this is something erskine bowles has been emphasizing. you have to make substantial cuts. host: the headlines in the papers this morning talk about the fiscal cliff negotiations and should the speaker retain his leadership. do you think he should? guest: i do not know. this has hurt him, for sure. you could argue there are more compelling person. host: like who? guest: the guy that used to work for me, paul ryan, is a very well spoken young man. there are other people. tim scott, congressman from south carolina. but there are others. i was saying on my radio show we have a strong bench. the bench is now in the field. those guys are out there. bobby jindal and scott walker susana martinez. new kind of republicans. they understand the modern world a little better. there are lots of candidates. who the speaker is matters less than the party getting back to its core message. host: return to
and harry reid. republicans mitch mcconnell and john boehner. those four members of congress are expected to make the drive from the capital, which you see on the right, down pennsylvania avenue, to the white house, there on the left. and we expect them to enter through a side door on the west side of the mansion. that's the entrance right there. and they'll meet with the president. in the oval office. beginning, we're told, at 3:00 p.m., less than one hour from now. and just four days ahead of the so-called fiscal cliff. so a very big moment in the nation's capital. and to walk us through what might happen we turn to jessica yellin, a chief white house correspondent. jessica, we said up front, it is a long shot, give us a best case scenario. >> reporter: the best case scenario would be that all the leaders walk out of this meeting and say they have a deal. the two senators say they can bring it to a vote, and none of their members will filibuster it. house speaker john boehner says he will bring it to the house floor for a vote before new year's eve and house minority leader nancy pelosi
is that the president basically told john boehner and mitch mcconnell the republican leaders in the room here for this meeting that he wants an up or down vote on his scaled back bill to try to avoid this fiscal cliff. and he basically turned on them and said so what's your response? what's your move? the next move is yours. and then i'm told that mitch mcconnell and harry reid, the democratic leader in the senate jumped in before john boehner really got a chance to fully respond and say, look, we will take the ball and try to pass a bipartisan bill in the senate. the president responded by saying i will give you a day or two but we're running out of time. if you don't get it done in the senate. i want an up or down vote. then he came out and addressed reporters in the briefing room it is clear that the president is only cautiously optimistic that this is going to take a look. take a listen. >> it if there are disagreements they sort through the disagreements. the notion that our elected leadership can't do the same thing is mind boggling to them. it needs to stop. i'm moderately optimistic t
report. >> holman: house speaker john boehner went before cameras this morning just hours after he abandoned a vote on his "plan b". >> it's not the outcome that i wanted, but that was the will of the house. >> holman: boehner's plan would have raised tax rates for households making more than $1 million, whereas president obama would raise rates on incomes above $400,000. but last night, as the vote neared, it became clear that at least two dozen rank-and-file republicans still opposed any increase. so party leaders abruptly ended the session. >> the house will stand in recess subject to the call of the chair. >> holman: at that point, republicans called an emergency meeting here in their capitol conference room, and leaders told members they did not have the votes. they announced the house would break until after christmas, but did not name a date when the chamber would reconvene. today, the speaker dismissed any suggestion that the turn of events was a rejection of his leadership. >> they weren't taking that out on me. they were dealing with the perception that somebody might acc
pelosi, senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and house speaker john boehner. they have only four days to reach an agreement or the u.s. economy will go off the so- called "fiscal cliff." that's when automatic spending increases and cuts would take effect. reaching a deal won't be easy because both sides are involved in a high stakes political blame game. >> we are here in washington working while the members of the house of representatives are out watching movies and watching the kids play soccer and basketball and doing all kinds of things. they should be here. >> i told the president we would be happy to look at wah he proposes but the truth is we are coming up against a hard deadline and as i said this is a conversation we should have had months ago. >> reporter: democrats want to extend the bush-era tax cuts to everyone except those americans making $250,000 or more a year. many republicans are against any tax increases. most americans just want something to be done. >> people are just tired of partisanship and they want everyone to come together. >> reporter: if lawmakers don't r
. >> congress is also in recess until after christmas. in his weekly address, house speaker john boehner accused the president and senate democrats of failing to offer a responsible solution. boehner's own proposal had to be pulled this week after he failed to get enough support from fellow republicans. >>> and the national rifle association promised meaningful contributions to avoid another tragedy like the one in newtown, connecticut. friday, the gun rights group unveiled that plan. nra executive vice president wayne lapierre says the u.s. should put armed guards in all schools. the comments came one week after 20 children and seven adults excludeing the gunman were killed in one of the worst mass shootings in u.s. history. >>> and what was a poorly guarded secret in washington, john kerry nominated to the next secretary of state. susan rice was believed to be the first choice, but she pulled her name out of the running after several members of congress attacked her responses to the deadly attacks in benghazi. >>> a former u.s. marine was imprisoned in mexico for four months has been reunited
: senate majority lyddite harry reid skewered house speaker john boehner, charging he's more interested in his leadership position than in bipartisan legislation. >> the speaker's number one goal is to get elected speaker on january 3rd. >> reporter: the two sides are at odds over tax cuts and spending. republicans say it's up to the democraticly controlled stat and white house to reach an agreement. >> republicans aren't about to write a blank check or anything senate democrats put forward just because we find ourselves at the edge of the cliff. >> reporter: members of the house were told to come back to washington sunday evening. they would have a little more than 24 hours to vote on a measure to avoid the fiscal cliff. danielle nottingham, cbs 2 news washington. >> a former bay area city councilman is about to learn firsthand how washington works or doesn't. he's a newly elected congressman and heading into a capitol hill quagmire. how the representative elect plans to help fix our fiscal ills. >> you're the freshman walking in. >> i'm ready to act. >> reporter: 31-year-old newly ele
visited troops in hawaii over christmas after a frustrating week on capitol hill. he and speaker john boehner about $100 billion. >> the president was $200 billion in revenues. speaker boehner $100 billion in spending cuts. >> reporter: tough decisions ahead. six days left. and lawmakers are now saying they will likely address tax reforms and spending cuts in the new year when the debt ceiling debate gets going. reporting live in washington. i'm danielle leigh. richard, back to you. >> danielle, thank you. >>> a note was left by the suspected shooter that killed two firefighters christmas eve in new york. here's nbc's ron mott with more details. >> reporter: police say the christmas eve ambush of four volunteer firefighters attacked as they arrived to battle a fire in new york. >> was a rage be interno out there. >> reporter: it was spell out in chilling details. >> quotes, i still have to get ready to see how much of the neighborhood i can burn down, and doing what i like doing best, killing people. >> reporter: authorities say 62-year-old william spengler who spent time for killing
coal in the stocking for house speaker john boehner and the end to his two-year reign as republican leader. he's facing pressure from his own party after his plan b failure. he proposed a vote on the plan to allow taxes to go up on millionaires, but republicans had to pull it off the table after admitting they can't get it passed. foorn illustration check the latest poll, and that's what we have political editor paul stein hauser doing? >> americans are worried about the tax increases and spending cuts that will kick in at the end of the year. 7-10 questioned in our cnn/orc national poll say there would be major problems or a crisis in the country if that happens. >> part of what voters were looking for is some compromise up here. that's what folks want. >> and our poll indicates more americans want the republicans rather than the democrats to compromise more to reach bipartisan solutions. >> the democrat-controlled senate and white house have no plan and have offered no plan all year to deal with these looming cuts. >> but the public doesn't seem to aagree, and more people would bl
, however, there's a chance that john boehner and republicans say, mr. president, the last offer that you had on the table, we agree to. and the third option is going over the fiscal cliff and as my colleague has pointed out time and time again, that seems to be the more likely option for everyone, because you end up going over and then that would allow republicans to countenance cutting taxes the way that president wants to do and that seems to be the direction we will be going. >> that third option, juftd going over the cliff, what are you hearing from the white house? is there a sense of confidence that if that were to happen that they would rebound better than republicans? >> reporter: well there's a sense in part, if you look at the polls, the majority of americans say they would blame republicans if the country were to go over the fiscal cliff. the white house feels they are in a strong position right now, in part because of the president winning re-election, he ran on the platform of increasing taxes on the wealthier americans. there's a sense that if they go over the cliff, the re
be controlled by john boehner. so you still have that divided congress. but the calculation is not, you know, a numerical one. it's the idea that if they go home -- first if they go home for christmas break, they'd feel the pressure, but it doesn't seem like that's coming. if they go over the cliff and they do mess with the debt ceiling, that people are going to get freaked and spooked because you'll start hearing stories about social security recipients facing the prospect of smaller checks from the government, unemployment insurance completely dried up, payroll tax cut is a big thing. your paycheck is going to start showing more is taken out of it for the payroll tax. and that will, in turn, cause the type of pressure on the new income in congress to get something done. it's interesting that we led off with kay bailey hutchison who's retiring, doesn't have a lot of the political pressures that others have. she said let's make a deal. her prediction, probably the right one, they're going to go home. suddenly once it passes, obama wim introduce his own package which will look like what he's
as far as john boehner is concernee. rich edson, thanks very much. shibani? shibani: goldman sachs ceo lloyd blankfein one of the ceo's set to speak with the president in an hour's time on latest details on the fiscal cliff talks. the financial sector on track for its biggest gain in nine years. what remains ahead for financials and what is at stake stake for the industry with the fiscal cliff looming? let's ask marty mosby, guggenheim bank analyst. let's talk about first, marty, we hear lloyd blankfein will be on phone to talk to president obama trying to garner his support, the president out of these ceos, but give us a sense what the banks are looking for out of any sort of negotiation on capitol hill as we proceed towards the cliff? >> well, the first thing that the banks would like to see is some, you know, at least some certainty and stability about how we're going to, get through this process and come out the other side. because as we're looking at either cutting spending or raising taxes those have impacts on the economic activity that these banks are going to be participating
something smaller in the wake of speaker john boehner's failure on so-called plan b last week. they just want something that will extend middle class tax cuts. they want to see two million people get unemployment benefits extended. those are running out at end of the year by the way the president, you remember, came out on friday after speaker boehner talked about the failure of the vote thursday night and president basically said everyone should calm down, cool off over the holidays. take a listen. >> everybody can cool off. everybody can drink some eggnog, have some christmas cookies, sing some christmas carols, enjoy the company of loved ones and then i would ask every member of congress while they're back home to think about that. think about the obligations we have to the people who sent us here. >> reporter: so, sing some carols today. probably will be some eggnog. here in hawaii, maybe back in ohio where john boehner is likely celebrating the holidays as well but they have got to seriously get back to work over the next couple days and top white house officials say we can expect t
and with budgeted talks in disarray, president obama and speaker john boehner are searching for a way to avoid tumbling over. >> we move forward together or we don't move forward at all. so, as we leave town for a few days to be with our families through the holidays. i hope it gives some perspective. >> we propose plans that democrats used to support but now they won't. i don't want taxes to go up. republicans don't want taxes to go up. but we only run the house, democrats continue to run washington. >> gregg: national correspondent steve centanni joins us live from washington. >> reporter: d.c. may be some shutting down for christmas but the clock hasn't stopped and fiscal cliff is closer than ever. no deal was reached this week to keep taxes from going up. joan boehner pulled plug on the plan "b" and he says it is now up to the president and g.o.p. is continuing to hammer away at president obama. >> this is the year size of our debt surpassed the our economy. a grim milestone if we don't come to grips to w it. the president's plan to raise tax rates ko could still be as far as eye could see
thursday after the christmas break. before leaving washington, mr. obama and house speaker john boehner both expressed hope that a deal will actually get done. >> we can't cut our way to prosperity. we need real economic growth. many of us believe on both sides of the aisle that the fundamental reform of our tax code will help us get our economy moving faster and put more americans back to work. and more americans on -- how we get there, god only knows. >> i asked for a compromise from members of congress, i met them more than halfway on spending and met them halfway on taxes. in terms of actual dollar amounts, we're not that far apart. as of today, i am still ready and willing to get a comprehensive package done. >> but time is running out. to reach an agreement, there are now just ten days left until automatic tax hikes and spending cuts do take effect. the s&p 500 and the nasdaq finished in some negative territory for the day. investors fear the country could slide back into recession if there's no deal to prevent automatic tax hikes and spending cuts. >>> staying in washington, sena
to see how the meeting shapes up next hour and so are we. neil: john boehner can deliver his caucus without spending cuts and democrats can't come to the table must -- my hand a doing this, republicans agreed to tax increases. we are going over the cliff and that might be what both sides want. >> the possible scenario where if the market reacts negatively lawmakers would feel the rush to pass something else. it became clear after john boehner put on the table keeping tax rates and taxes where they are for income amount of less than $1 million, not enough in cuts, you have to get democrats and republicans to bring this over the line in the house much like you have to do in the senate which is why this has to be worked out with a democrat and republican leaders in the white house later today in a last-ditch effort to get something done before new year's. adam: rich edson on his way to the white house. for more on the last-ditch talks to avoid the fiscal clip i am joined by heritage foundation budget expert and data analyst director bill beach. , the conspiracy theory, in actuality bot
happened this week with john boehner's failure to bring even a vote on so-called plan b to be an embarrassment for the speaker, but you think that the g.o.p. dodged a bullet here? >> yeah, they dodged a serious bullet here in in case, when you think about it one of the most appealing quality of their brand they're principally opposed to tax increases that we don't have a revenue problem that we have a spending problem. to be on record as voting for a very anti-growth tax increase, i think, would imperil their house majority. >> and stf with just new years avenue, december 31st he. but he says actually the drop dead is the 27th to do the technicalities they have to do to pass by the end of the year. december 27th, that's just really a few minutes away. are they going to be able to do anything by then? >> they clearly could do something, but i think it's important for the republicans at this point to sit back and realize they've made a compromise. president obama walked away. now, the ball is in his court to actually give them something much better. if not these tax increa
.8% or whatever it was of americans that was john boehner's plan "b." a couple of things are either being misreported or inaccurately reported because what gets in the way of the president's plan is the constitution of the united states. and the good thing about this meeting is that the focus is now firmly on the united states senate where it should have been all these months. the house acted a long time ago to extend all the tax cuts and take care of sequestration. the senate has given speeches. >> you're referring to the fact that revenue issues are supposed to generate in the house. right now, both speaker boehner and the president say it's between reid and mcconnell which does raise the question, whatever procedural and constitutional issues, which are profound. are you concerned as a republican, someone who is close to speaker boehner, if we go over the fiscal cliff, that republicans will get the blame? >> well, of course they will. because republicans get blamed if it rains if washington. that shouldn't be the test here, it shouldn't be the consideration. but senator reid has had it
of john boehner. guest: we are so used to these losing presidential campaigns, the two running mates, in and it was not so vivid in this case. in fact, what i think was less though, but even compared to other campaigns, paul ryan wanted to be more of a jack kemp conservative, talking about empowering lower-income voters. he was denied a way to do that in a full throttle way. there was what we were just talking about in a while. he advocated early on to do an automotive advertisements based on his home town in wisconsin, which had a big gm plant. guest: he supported the bailout. it is " yes. but i think they got along pretty well. there were some areas of tension, but for the most part, for all of the buzz about paul ryan when he was picked, he became a pretty conventional running mate in terms of his impact, which was not very significant. host: we go now to our caller. caller: thank you. the presidential level, 2016, in particular, with hillary clinton it appearing to be already the nominee, and then the other question i have for you is after the bush debate, it did seem like mitt r
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